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Aiming for more ethical and sustainable dog ownership

So, this is, apparently, the post many of you have been waiting for… how to deal with dog poo. Owning a dog is not the most sustainable choice, although it’s more sustainable than having children! But, for those of us who do have a canine companion, we can do all sorts of things to minimise its impact on the planet. First, rescuing a dog rather than buying one and thus encouraging breeding is by far the most sustainable option: there are plenty dogs in the world, let’s not support people creating any more of them simply for profit. Second, have your dog neutered, so that it doesn’t create any more puppies. When we start to run out of dogs, then we can think about creating more of them. Third, food choice is important – we have moved over to feeding Sam and Max minced organic offal as part of their meat diet, for example, because this is often regarded as ‘waste’ as it’s not a very popular human food. Having filled them up with yummy organic food, however, there are consequences! What goes in, has to come out and so there is poo to deal with.

In days gone by, dog excrement was considered a valuable resource and was used in leather tanning. Interestingly it was known as ‘pure’ or ‘puer’ in the nineteenth century and Julian Walker cites Hotten’s Slang Dictionary, 1865 as containing the following definition: Pure Finders – street-collectors of dogs’ dung. These days, however, leather is produced without the use of ‘pure’ and pure is generally regarded as a waste product – often bagged up and placed in refuse destined for landfill or simply left to contaminate our streets (shame on you, irresponsible dog owners).

I think this is a real pity, because by treating ‘pure’ as waste, we are missing out on a valuable source of fertility. Responsible dog owners already collect up their dog’s waste, so choosing to take an extra step and compost it is not an enormous leap.

If you read around the subject you will find dire warnings about the health issues associated with using dog (or cat) waste in the garden, but if you understand the issues, then you can create an appropriate system and minimise risks.

The two main problems you are likely to find highlighted are Toxocariasis and Toxoplasmosis, so let’s deal with these two things first.

Toxocariasis is, according to NHS Choices, ‘a rare infection caused by roundworm parasites. It is spread from animals to humans via their infected faeces. Roundworm parasites are most commonly found in cats, dogs and foxes…’ In general, the infection causes no or mild symptoms, but in rare cases it can lead to eye problems (ocular toxocariasis) or damage to the central nervous system or organs (visceral toxocariasis). Roundworm eggs can remain viable in soil for several years if the conditions are moist and cool. You should make sure your dogs are wormed and ensure good hygiene anyway, so ideally there won’t be any toxocara in their poo.

Toxoplasmosis is found in the faeces of infected cats (and other animals). The NHS Choices web site states: ‘Toxoplasmosis is an infection caused by a common parasite called Toxoplasma gondii … Most people who get toxoplasmosis don’t have symptoms. Around 10-15% of people develop symptoms similar to mild flu or glandular fever, such as a temperature, sore throat and muscle aches… Toxoplasmosis is more serious in people with weakened immune systems, such as those who have had an organ transplant, those with HIV and AIDS, and those receiving certain types of chemotherapy treatment.’ A major issue is pregnant women passing the infection to their unborn child and resultant damage to the child’s nervous system and it is generally recommended that woman who are pregnant never handle cat waste. The eggs that are passed by a cat can remain viable in moist soil for 18 months or longer.

I do not have experience with composting cat waste, but I see no reason why you couldn’t use the same techniques as for dog waste, with the proviso that anyone who may be more susceptible to Toxoplasmosis does not attempt this.

In addition, dealing with faeces of any sort means that you are handling gut bacteria. Remember that good hygiene is essential – use your common sense and never apply faeces to soils around crops that you are going to consume uncooked.

However, with all those warnings out of the way, and with the note that other approaches (like wormeries) are available here is my technique for PURE COMPOSTING:

Our poo bin

Our poo bin

Our poo bin is an old wormery with a reservoir at the bottom and a tap, plus it has a lid with a clip to keep it closed. It does not, however, contain composting worms any longer.

We collect all our dogs’ poo on walks in kitchen paper. We place it in a plastic bag for transport and on return home we drop the paper and poo (not the bag) into the poo bin. If the dogs poo in the garden, we collect it  and transfer it directly (unpackaged) into the bin. We tried using biodegradable bags and are still suffering from their unsightly remains in our soil.

In addition, the poo bin receives wood shavings and chicken poo from cleaning out the chicken house, plus shredded paper and wood ash from our storm kettle. We put in less ash than poo. The wood shavings and paper act as a good source of carbon. If you don’t keep chickens, paper alone is fine, and you could also add cardboard or finely chopped/shredded woody prunings. The ash helps to balance the pH and you should only use wood ash – coal ash is too acidic.

We just keep adding to the bin until it is full. It does not smell. We use a compost aerator tool to make sure that the contents of the bin are turned regularly and there is plenty of oxygen available for decomposition. Because of the ingredients, the compost can be very dry and if this is the case, I add human urine – this also gives a nitrogen boost and speeds up decomposition.

We regularly drain the liquid  to ensure that the base of the compost does not get waterlogged. This liquid is diluted 10:1 and used as a root feed – it seems to work well for tomatoes, peppers, chillies and fruit trees and bushes. We do not use this as a foliar feed.

more on this in an up coming post

This is what it looks like once transferred to the standard compost bin. There is no bad smell.

When the bin is full, we leave it for a couple of months –  aerating occasionally – before transferring the contents into the bottom of a standard compost bin, where it will remain for about a year, with other material being composted on top. Alternatively, we leave the poo bin closed up for six months and then use the compost for planting fruit trees or in the bottom of a bean trench.

The two-stage method (either moving it to a new bin or burial for continued decomposition) should minimise health risks. If you are unsure – simply compost for longer. If you have two suitable poo bins, and your dogs aren’t too ‘productive’ you should be able to have one bin in use and one rotting down in a constant cycle.

As I say, other methods are available, but this is the one that works for us using the resources that we have to hand. It produces a good compost and there are no bad smells during composting or with the finished product. In addition, we have had no problems with flies in the bin.

Pups - not completely unsustainable!

Pups – not completely unsustainable!

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  1. I love your opening sentence! it made me chuckle! xx

  2. This is exactly the kind of information I’m looking for. 🙂 Thanks for posting.

  3. Fascinating, but not certain I could deal with this myself. No dog at the moment but saving.

  4. Sounds as if you have the process perfected. Very permaculture: View the problem as the solution – poo is a resource!

  5. Thanks for this, yes, we’ve been waiting 🙂 My stomach turned a little at your suggestion to aerate it, but then I thought, well, I pick the darn stuff up all the time, usually fresh and steaming, so I can do aerating. I think I’ll try the cat poo too, I think they produce more than the dog! I use a grain husk litter that I put in the compost bin now after removing the solids and letting it dry out a bit. Thanks for telling us how you do it, great information.

  6. Fascinating article and smile-inducing as well.

    We have three cats, also producing plenty of waste but, composting there waste is discouraged. I follow What’s Green With Betsy? and she writes on both cat and dog waste. Here’s the link: https://betsywild.wordpress.com/2012/06/05/proper-disposal-of-cat-waste/

    We do compost everything else including kitchen scraps and yard waste, and our city even has a yard waste pick up on our regular trash day. The yard waste is converted into compost and made available to gardeners who don’t make there own.

    I applaud your efforts with your lovely dogs.

  7. I am so fascinated by this process – it is wonderful! It seems to me the health issues could be eradicated if we all cared for our pets health properly and stopped the spread of unwanted and feral litters – but that’s a whole other post!

    I realise I’m probably not going to do this – lack of space in my tiny courtyard garden plus one small puppy who doesn’t produce enough poo to do anything much with, but the info can be shared! …… My boy eats a mixture of organic potatoes and carrots mashed with milk kefer and cooked minced beef and chicken which comes from the pet store – so I figure his poo is okay, but as he augments that with anything else that comes his way and an awful lot of stuff gets chewed up and swallowed – one can never be too sure what else would be in the mix …… I don’t suppose it matters. I’m rambling, thinking out loud……

    Great post Jan, thanks for sharing!

  8. How timely! After 6 weeks, the snow has FINALLY melted in my yard, and I just collected 2 WalMart bags of, uh, pure. Now, if you PROMISE it does not smell, I may have to try this. I have always read not to compost doggie doo, but I’ve been feeling rather not quite right about placing it in the trash collection each week. Willis is an extreme producer 🙂

    • We were pleasantly surprised that all it smelled of when we emptied the bin was ordinary compost and we haven’t had any complaints from the neighbours!

  9. Most interesting Ms Snail. I have been working on an idea to dig (yes…dig…poor Stevie-boy 😉 ) some ‘holes’ near the base of our fruit trees and institute a worm tube into the ground where we can tip our dog poo and add straw/sawdust etc.) as they fill up the worms can get to them and turn them into fertiliser for the fruit trees. We don’t live in suburbia so we can apply strange and wonderful things like worm tubes without our neighbours calling the local constabulary to have us forcibly evicted. I will let you know how our idea goes 🙂

  10. One thing is certain. Your dogs are delightful!

  11. Denise Arnold

     /  March 15, 2015

    just a point about low immune system, some people don’t know their immune system is no good as they don’t have the conditions you mention. So a general warning is to not get affected soil on hands or to breath in dog muck stench. Campylerbacter was the cause of my immune system crashing after rpicking dog muck up in the garden and I got Guilain Barre syndrome, 2 years off work and a spell of being paralysed, so incredible care is needed.

    • Sorry I missed this comment and didn’t reply sooner. My mother is currently recovering from GBS – cause unknown in her case. I hope you are now in a better state of health.
      You are quite right about hygiene. All dog owners have a responsibility to clear up after their pooches (whatever they decide to do with the waste subsequently) and it is really important to make sure that care is taken to protect yourself and others. I collect round the garden in a bucket and then cover the waste with wood ash as soon as possible – which reduces the chance of airborne problems. After that, I ensure that the bin is covered and that everyone in the household knows what it is for. Isolating the waste and dealing with it appropriately rather than mixing it with general household refuse is much more responsible and should reduce accidental exposure.

  12. Did you try the inclusion of composting worms in any of your experiments? We’re kicking around ideas for using them in our human system at the moment.

    • Yes… I started off with worms, but they never survived for some reason. I never worked out why and so I just accepted that they weren’t right for my system. I wonder if it’s the occasional presence of wormer (about once a year).


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